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Old 08-05-2019 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777

If you know you really need the flow (no degree, criminal record, training problems, etc) then flow is priceless and affords an opportunity you would simply not have otherwise.
This^^^. But therein lies the problem. Perhaps it really DOESN’T matter. Perhaps none of that stuff, DUIs, criminal record, training failures, or lack of college degree is important at all. Maybe it isn’t. Maybe there is no correlation between any of that stuff and being a good airline pilot.

But unless you can convince THE MAJOR HR PEOPLE of that, as soon as they realize that the people flowing to them are disproportionately the people THEY consider the dregs of the applicant pool, what will happen is predictable. They will be looking for ways out of that flow agreement or, at a minimum, ways to slow down the flow so they can hire as many “superior” OTS hires as possible or at least delay the movement of the “flowees” to mainline as long as possible to limit the pilot years that they will be there.

And they’ve got the big lawyers. Don’t forget that 20 years ago United took a case all the way to the Supreme Court (Sutton vs UAL) and won, because UAL didn’t want to hire people based simply on FAA standards. Congress actually had to rewrite the Americans with Disability Act to overcome that decision.

I can picture one story linked to the Drudge Report from the National Enquirer alleging some major airline got all the drunks, criminals, and poor pilots. Bet it wouldn’t be a week before their legal department was moving heaven and earth to renege on their flow agreement.
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