Originally Posted by
av8or
Ahhhh yes.... the timeless “They’ll never give us that!”... defeatist argument. And.... I get it!!! Kasher evisceration in 08.... management infiltration of the Union in subsequent years... and a whole boat load VSP’rs. Hoping that between the VXrs (a lot of whom this ain’t their first rodeo), commuters, and new hires (within the last 4 years) we can set a new course. If you can’t negotiate a great contract in this environment.... then you won’t ever.
You just listed a whole lotta things that stood in the way of getting/having better contracts. All of those road blocks are/were very real obstacles to our CBA. Why do you glaze over them as if it couldn’t happen again? Why do you scoff at anyone who admits those things happened before?
Had a DAL 330 CA in the jump the other day. He said their no vote 4 years ago was Delta’s first time EVER voting no on a contract. How many years did it take them to vote no on something? 70-80 years? Had we gotten our vote on the ‘17 CBA or for our original ‘18 section 6, maybe we too would have voted no for the first time, maybe not but don’t brush off the past as if we haven’t been severely impacted by it. Use it as a tool to learn from and become a more informed voter.