Larry when will you get the fact there wasn't a procedure for MCAS inputs due to AOA failure, with stick shakers, audio warnings a trim which does not work with the control brake, and more. There was also some rumor another pilot told the first crew to shut off the electric trim switches.

Maybe you or someone else may have saved it, but two airplanes from two different airlines at opposite sides of the earth crashed and killed over 300 people. Even after Boeing was forced to provide a notice to operators of the model (not an AD BTW).

There simply wasn't a procedure for what happened to them, no QRCs, QRH, nor prescribed immediate action items for that combination of failures. Essentially these crews were " winging it" like the good old days before checklists and SOPs.

And yes you made it personal by constantly implying you had the goods to save these airplanes.

So who fault were the crashes? If the pilots did not have the proper training, experience and or procedures whose fault is it?