Originally Posted by SureJetz

AA Flow is just that. It's a FLOW. The negativity over there is that the Flow is more like 8-8.5 yrs instead of the 5.5yrs that American was advertising. That's a fry cry from the ferry tales United is sewing that "thousands" of pilots have been successful with the CPP and that it's a direct path to United.

The Envoy/PSA/Piedmont flow is a defined thing. When you're number comes, you go. It's that simple. It's not a 12% success rate of all employees that were on property at the time the CPP was implemented. The Delta program has/had a 50% or better success rate. I'm no mathematician but 50% > 12%. Plus upgrade at Envoy is as soon as you get 1,000 121 time. Not so much at Expressjet.

I hope United gets things in gear but there's no real sign of that right now. There's a lot of people at this company that would love to hear some good news and would like to be a working partner with United instead of being treated like a third rate contractor with no career progression and stability.

I will agree that the Ultra senior ASA lifers here are a huge drain on the place and it would be extremely sad if they drag us down the tubes. There's a reason why Delta didn't hire many of them...