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Old 09-04-2019 | 11:36 AM
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dera
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I don't know if the oral bust would be on PRIA. Since you were typed there would not be an FAA pink slip.

A failed fed observation would not appear on PRIA. I don't think extra IOE appears, IIRC there would be one line for all of the IOE performed during upgrade. You would see something like this...

Initial Line Check Date
Initial Fed Observation Date (Examiner Name)
IOE Date 48:30 hours

Any extra IOE would just be part of the total. But a savvy reviewer might know how much IOE is normal at your airline. For regionals it's usually very close to the legal min, an extra 3-4 day trip would be a flag for sure.

Bottom line, an oral for a type you already have may not be PRIA reportable, and an upgrade Fed observation is definitely not PRIA reportable. Get a copy of your PRIA report from your current airline.

But that does not mean it's OK to lie to an airline, they ask "have you ever failed...", not "have you ever failed a PRIA reportable event".

If you lie and get caught (sometimes they can read between the lines) you will 100% lose the job offer, or if already employed 100% get fired. In the later case you'll slink back to the right seat of an RJ, never to be seen at a major again... getting fired for lying IS reportable on PRIA.
I think we are getting a few things mixed up here.
PRIA is not just FAA records, it's also your previous airlines furnishing all training records.

Failed fed ride/oral/whatever part of an evaluation is 100% reportable in PRIA.

"(2) Records concerning qualifications, proficiency, or professional competence of the
individual, including comments and evaluations made by a check airman designated under
§ 121.411, § 125.295, or § 135.337. For example, documents that show the individual’s
qualifications as instructor/evaluator, check airman, or examiner; and records of the individual’s
proficiency checks (recurring checks for captain, first officer, or line checks). "

It's safe to assume that every single training/testing event when there's a check airman involved will be included in your PRIA package.
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