Originally Posted by
Big E 757
I think we all understand that the Narita hub is gone, as is that flying.
The way I understand it though, (which could be completely wrong) is that DALPA has been trying to modify our scope language to reflect the shift in flying and contain the growth of our JV partners at our expense, but management has been unwilling to do so.
I don’t want Delta to needlessly operate empty aircraft on unsustainable routes, but I also don’t like watching other airlines operate JV routes that we are capable of flying and watching our International flying decrease while our JV partners are taking delivery of shiny new wide bodies and flying our passengers around the globe.
If you believe our management, Korean out negotiated our management team and they want to do all the flying. We were lucky to hang on to any of it. That was the story they gave of China Eastern, and I believe Korean as well. If you came from the regionals, this is the same whipsawing game you saw there, only with bigger equipment. Korean, AF/KLM, Virgin crews are cheaper than Delta crews, so if the execs at the various airlines can get the flights done with cheaper crews, they all make more money. And I don’t know about you, but my profit sharing check isn’t nearly big enough to offset the loss of our wide body fleet for the last several years of my career. (Even if I had no hope of ever holding widebody A, I’d still feel the same way. I don’t want to sound like it’s all about me.)
The good news for you, if you have any desire to be a wide body pilot here some day, is that most of the pilot group aren’t as easily fooled.
No in don't think many understand that. Many are taking my posts as "giving up scope" as if the 2500 block hours in Japan are going to come back if we scream enough about it. If the Union is using the violation as leverage to improve JV equitable growth language that's another story but they haven't communicated that.
I'm not sure where you are getting believing management being out negotiated and Korean doing all the flying. USA-Korea flying is above JV minimums and growing significantly above it 2020
AF/KLM JV ASKs are near minimums but the JV flying has grown across the Atlantic along with Delta block hours. Moreover Delta is growing 15% in the UK next year. When you start to look at the facts it gets harder to justify the Korean Scope Violation as impactful on jobs vs just a technicality. If the combany loses the arbitration on the interpretation they'll simply ask where to send the check, something that could have been resolved months ago.
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