Originally Posted by jetflyer123

A “reciprocal agreement” on OUR FLIGHTS. I fully support that your captains have the right to deny the jumpseat, which is what they will be doing to AA pilots who are properly listed for the jumpseat in accordance with company policy. You want to deny the jumpseat out of order than fine! That’s a jumpseat war.

FAR 121.547 says that in order to sit in the jumpseat you must have permission from the pilot in command and that under his emergency authority the PIC can exclude anyone from the cockpit in the interest of safety. NO ONE HERE IS ARGUING THAT WHATSOEVER.

What we are arguing is the fact that a handful of your brightest crayon munchers are stating that this is not a change to priority and is a true reciprocal agreement. A reciprocal agreement means I can ride your jumpseat and you can ride mine, ok that box is checked.

Now that we have those two items out of the way, the next issue in the reciprocity agreement would be how we are cleared from the standby list in accordance with the flag carriers travel/jumpseat policy. Mine says pilots on their own metal, D1 FDJ, D2 FDJ, D6UJ. Yours says..... oh wait that’s right you didn’t sell a single ticket, your RJ says American Eagle on the side of it, you were hired to operate the way we tell you to operate, you use our gate agents, and the standby list, including jumpseats, for AA flights is cleared in accordance with AA policy. By all means, tell us we can’t ride, that is 100% your right, but when we’ve done everything right in accordance with the policy that trumps yours and you remove us for the Delta guy, it’s a jumpseat war. Trying to hide behind the fact that your FOM states this is “the law” is retarded. The FAA doesn’t care about what the priority list for a jumpseat is beyond FAA, NTSB, Secret Service etc, and I doubt AA is going to let a little contract carrier put pressure on them just because they changed their FOM. That is setting a dangerous precedent, and I doubt they would take that risk. While this is small, what would be next?

All that being said, I still think you guys are right, and if it wasn’t for a few of your finest on here pounding their chests because “we’ve successfully changed the jumpseat priority and are going to treat AA pilots the way they treated us all these years,” there would probably be a lot of guys that would go to bat for you. Like we’ve said, we had no idea, but the way these guys have been on here I’d rather just throw them a comfort animal and send them off to their safe space. They can sit there and feel great about themselves for bumping the American guy off an American flight and giving it to United. Bravo