Originally Posted by
fanaticalflyer
Well here's the typical problem where guys do not know the contract! ALPA has put out DYK multiple times on Soft Resets. All of you did not read it apparently. If you had let Crew Sked leave a message, you would have known about later pickup time. If someone didn't get a phone call, the Pilot Mobile shows the later pickup time without having to acknowledge the trip. You just go to airport at new time and acknowledge the trip one minute after original show time.
Here's the DYK for your perusal.
Actually, I "try" to know the contract but sorry that I and most of us don't live up to your knowledge level with regards to our 500+ page document.
I understand the soft start concept and was bringing up the issue that since most pilots (myself included) tend to get on our company IPads on the van (at overseas locations) or on the bus (here in domicile), it brings up the problem that since we are "technically" not at the airport yet and still up to 30 mins from actual start of our duty day, logging on to CCS opens up a can of worms with regard to being soft started.
Your Profile states you are a A320 Capt. So let me ask you this-
If you are on an international trip.. and cannot check your cell phone for a message from crew scheduling... what do you do?
Do you head downstairs at scheduled van time and then log into CCS only to find out that you are now soft reset?
I guess in a perfect world, no one would even boot up their IPad until AFTER they arrived at the flight planning area, AFTER official start of their duty.
But in the real world, what is the answer about our "status" with regards to FAR117 and when we are on the van? If it's not duty, and it's not rest.. what is it?!
Seems the Soft Reset was a loophole that FAA gave the company to basically extend our duty day.
I remember at a C2012 roadshow the question was asked about Field Standby.. answer- "It's in the contract but won't be used"
I asked about the disparity in 76-3 pay.. answer- "Planes are leaving so no reason to waste negotiating capital on them"
There is a question I have with regards to being contacted for a soft rest. I understand 2 way contact is required. Does logging on to our IPAD BEFOFE official start of the duty day constitute 2 way contact?
You state -
the Pilot Mobile shows the later pickup time without having to acknowledge the trip. You just go to airport at new time and acknowledge the trip one minute after original show time.
I don't recall seeing that. If I open up Pilot Mobile, and there is a Pairing Modification.. isn't that the same as going on CCS and seeing a pairing modification? The company knows you just logged in.. how can you then say you didn't know?
Mind you, I don't think we had Ipad's or at least no Pilot Mobile before C12.. but can't remember for sure.
How does our IPad and Pilot Mobile/FFD play into our duty day and contact time? That's all I was trying to bring up~
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