Thats fine Scoop. We are around the same seniority. I appreciate your point of view and demeanor. But let me ask you....did being calm and presenting facts do anything to change the mind of the yes voters on the Mec during TA1? Nope. Those same outliers then are now the Trip7s, checklistmonkey, and Bucks that defend mgmt and align their agendas with the other side. Thats fine too....they are entitled to their opinion. The problem ensues when they assume positions of power in either alpa or mgmt. Think it cant and doesnt happen? Trip7, checklistdonkey, buckorogers, and dumbsidedown are the “Squad” of Delta APC. Disparaging them is more useful than conversing with them with facts. Your way enables them and raises their platform. I will agree to disagree with you.