The whole open skies agreement isn’t fair. You're making my point for me. We give them access to our country, and get access to theirs. We give more than 4x what we get. It becomes slightly more fair because I believe the open skies agreement covers the entire EU, but a joint venture agreement with KLM/AF, gives them way more than we get right out of the box. That’s why the production balance is so critical.

And to the poster who said they’d rather ten flights to AMS than serving 8 other cities, if you’re saying 10>8 so it’s better, I’ll buy that. But when you find yourself laying over in Paris, 3-4 times a week, every week, and enduring that long @$$ bus ride every morning on arrival, you’ve officially taken all the fun out of international flying.

AMS is much better than CDG or LHR in my opinion, and if that’s how Delta can make the most money, I’m not complaining, but the variety of destinations made International flying a lot of fun not too long ago. If we can hold on to some of the variety, while focusing on our JV partner hubs, I’d be ok with that.