Guys, the company has all the leverage. As previously stated, we won't get a contract till something changes that the company wants. Right now that's scope, right now that's not going to change, so right now it could be years more.

Games? Yes. That 's how this system is rigged. The only way to change that is to change the railway labor act, and with the current administration, we really don't want to open that box because I suspect we would get something horrifically worse.

I'm not one to preach patience, but in this we have no choice. Suck it up. Voting on a deal early next year? Not bloody likely. The better question is, early in which year?

Know specific details? That would be negotiating in public. Not recommended. When the company does that, they are trying to divide us. Our best weapon is UNITY. What tends to happen is that if we go public, then everyone wants their own individual deal--no unity and no bargaining power there. Know now that this process will take years. so....wait for it.....be patient.

"If we don't hang together, we will surely all hang separately."