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Old 10-25-2019 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Says every overbearing, know it all FO.

(not saying YOU are that guy, but the VERY FEW FO’s I had issues with when I was with Eagle were universally weak, yet overbearing A-type personalities. Thankfully, the overwhelming majority were not, and were awesome pilots and people, but there were a few memorable douchebag FO’s who tried mightily to overpower me, to no avail. Remember too that you were once that brand new FO who needed babysitting by your captains for your first few hundred hours in type - or at the airline. New captains on type definitely need and want help and assistance from their experienced FO’s for their first few hundred hours in type, but don’t need or want the FO’s to take over the operation and be the quasi captains. The company nor the FAA condones that.)

And you are naive if you think “merit” at any company isn’t based on a good old boys club system. That system upgrades some of the most unqualified, inept pilots flying for any given company - usually a corporate or charter type of operation.
Any time someone’s perception of their own abilities significantly exceeds their actual abilities you’re in a fix. Anyone would agree with that. However, when you start talking about putting people in their place, that is to me indicative of a mentality that precludes any possibility of effective CRM. The evidence of this is everywhere if you start watching Air Disasters type shows.

If you’re reading this and you like putting people in their place and making sure they stay in their lane etc etc., try this alternative on for size: “I know you’re trying to help, but I’m ultimately responsible for that.”
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