185 lbs, 5’8”, Scorpio. Medium fits perfect with the liner. There is a tiny bit of extra room when wearing the shell without the liner but small shell would have definitely been too small. I think there is mid-information out there that they run big. They don’t run big, it’s a shell, it’s meant to be worn over other outerwear. If you’re just wearing over your shirt then yes, there may be a bit of extra room if you go with your usual size. I got the liner for that one or 2 MSP midwinter overnights I tend to always get.

Definitely a nice quality jacket.

Jacket came very fast. Ordered the day the email about the Karbon came out and it wa a delivered yesterday. What’s that, less than two weeks?