I'll hold your hand and help you along this logical journey.

I agreed with an OAL guy that calling fatigued was the only way to fix systemically fatiguing pairings, while noting that some pilot groups as a whole (e.g., Spirit) are not afflicted by the cult-inspired brainwashing that inspires the actions (and posts on this very thread) of many pilots at a certain other carrier.

You responded to my statement (that people should call fatigued instead of drinking the juice and completing the mission), with a statement that those who have a problem with fatiguing pairings should stop complaining and "join an ALPA committee."

I asked what joining a committee had to do with a line pilot calling out fatigued for a fatiguing pairings, to which you and 360 (a reliable management booster like yourself) suggest I'm deflecting and distracting which is -- I'd say ironically, but it's not anymore -- exactly what you did.

We could learn a lot from the Spirit pilot group, but unfortunately there are too many here who choose to hold us back by attacking those with legitimate concerns and complaints.