We have to be the most dysfunctional pilot group in airline history. First no union, then Tiger merger p***ing contest (purple vs silver), then ALPA (which ask the pilots to not fly on their days off in 12/95, but we could not resist the 200%), then kick out ALPA and insert FPA with PC (who offered a great pay raise, but forgot to tell us to bend over on trip rig among other things. "Can you spell no reach around"), then FPA "take 2" with MW as pres. which actually brought unity, but no experience in negotiating (Black Thursday) and now back to ALPA (and again no courtesy with a reach around with the optimizer, LOA and age 65, bla,bla,bla). Forget anything? Priceless!!

I find it ironic that when I was hired 12yrs ago most senior pilots I flew with wanted nothing to do with ALPA or a union and now the junior pilots are disenfranchised with ALPA. Go figure. Company negotiators must be loving it!!

But I can't blame the junior pilots. I say keep raising the BS flag and maybe the word will get out and more pilots will vote on the issues etc..( I know naive). FJ is right. Senior union leaders have not worked well with junior pilots who have volunteered and voiced their opinions. I personally know two pilots from my new hire class that worked on the negotiating team with BC and have both resigned.

I still would rather keep ALPA on board vise independent. If anything for the lawyer protection from the company. God forbid I have an aircraft incident. My 2 cents. I feel better now.