I gave them a pass on the A400 since that was politically driven in Euro-land to become less reliant on foriegn defense products, and R&D timing was totally dependent on the customer, ie you either design a new plane or we'll buy one from Lockheed. It delivered on that, just not at the promised cost. I was actually surprised that several customer governments broke it off so hard in AB's butt, and made them eat the cost over-runs.