Old 12-24-2019, 07:34 PM
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TurnandburnCRJ2
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Here are some more posts from other pilots:

"It’s not hard if you can memorize the flows and Callouts and have a lot of """imagination""". (Things happen faster in cpt with zero visual cue compared to the sim) (it takes 45 seconds to a minute or so for the real thing to go from “set thrust” to 1000’ but in cpt it happens in 15 seconds. when I went through I met a captain upgrade going through with a new hire at the bar and he was saying that it’s much harder now and there is a lot more to it than when he went through as a new hire. He said it’s a lot more organized with more completion standards.

It’s not hard but I can see why many have issues with it"


"Available on Day 1? Yes ... have to to read, understand, and digest while going through Indoc and systems? Hardly. I understand the premise of this style of learning which is mostly driven by cost reduction. This “Survivor Island “ style of learning can be handled by some people, but many struggle. I also understand that this style of learning has a few supporters who think it’s a weeding process to help keep those who aren’t good enough or smart enough out. Only the strong and committed survive. Even the old Fundamentals of Instruction, that many were supposed to have read, will tell you that different learners learn differently.

I understand why AW chose to teach this way, but I don’t agree with it. I stand by my opinion that it is a poor learning system, with numerous flaws, based on an outdated model that was poorly designed to begin with. Indoc and Systems were smooth, well paced, and gave time for people to learn and understand the new world of regional jets at AW. It’s the same style of learning that people experience from Kindergarten on through all of their aviation training, because it works. Then there’s a huge shift in learning style ... I know it’s not AW’s job to make people’s airline pilot dreams come true, but the company’s success is literally tied to this poor example of training."

"Air Wisconsin is known for having standards that are high, in many cases higher than what most would consider “fair.”"

"I am over 5 months since DOH. I only know of one person from my class that’s made it to the line. Some have completed a full set of sims and require extra training. Some have not. I also know someone hired in April who is on the line and others from that time who have had 20 + sims meanwhile those hired in January are still waiting. People are resigning due to the wait am training going out of seniority"

"I would use the five months to find a better regional job. I did my time at Air Wisconsin and I am not likely to recommend that product to others."

"Air Wisconsin was a great company. Management and labor relations are terrible and have been for the last decade+, there is not a certain future for their 50-seat regional jets nor is there a plan to refleet the airline.

Would I send someone there knowing what I know now? 100% no. In fact two people that I have sent to Piedmont and Endeavor both saw a quick upgrade, one went to Southwest and the other is waiting on a class date at United.

“Pick your poison” is not quite a fair statement anymore. 10 years ago you had many poisons to pick from. Some of those poisons aren’t even available to pick from anymore. Do your due diligence with regional airlines and make a choice with a carrier that best suits you, your family if you have one, and your quality of life. QOL exists, just not so much at Air Wisconsin.

My last week at Air Wisconsin I was rerouted and they attempted to junior man me on my last trip at the company. The airline had some great days and does offer excellent insurance, but beyond that there are many many many better choices out there."

"Failure rate is high, expect 6+ months for training. No news on any of the other items, except I know that the company will not give us pay rates anywhere near the other regionals. Taken from numerous MEC reps. I would advise from coming here and going somewhere else."

"Air Wisconsin and 'treating people right' no longer belong in the same sentence. ..I guess you could say they used to."
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