Actually I flowed through mid 2018 and I still consider an Envoy pilot an American pilot. It is pretty simple for me. You are hired to be an AA pilot before you get to the pipeline. Envoy flies AA painted planes with NN registrations, have exactly the same uniforms and the same computer system among other things. There is no additional interview or screening after the initial where you are hired at Envoy. A simple departmental transfer is all that happens. Why don't you explain to me how you think you are not American Airlines.