Originally Posted by
Tyrion
You will see a bunch of differing opinions. Some people have it easy (usually 175 FOs in DFW because that was the growing fleet until recently). Everyone else, not so much.
It really is the tale of two airlines.
175s have better schedules than their 145 counterparts. They typically fly the longer legs, so they are a bit more productive.
The big picture, Envoy has 1 reserve pilot for every 2 line holders. You will more than likely spend a lot of time on reserve, and when you become a lineholder, you will probably have to endure some unproductive lines for a while.
There is not a lot of OT to be picked up. On the 145, you see a lot of opportunities for overnights worth 2 hours with a 20 hour sit. That's great if you are single, homeless, and just like to hang out in a hotel. Not much money there.
You can lose the OT if you end up dropping a day for a scheduling conflict or missing a commute. You can lose the pay overage of an overblock if you get a reassignment. The pay protections here are really bad.
Anyone who tells you that Envoy is great, probably lives in base, flies the 175, and bids top 50% in their lines. Take their advice with a grain of salt, there is little to suggest that any new hires will have the same fortunate circumstances they had.
I do think that you're being a bit harsh as well. As a new hire, you'll probably end up sitting reserve no more than 6 months (again depends what base/what plane). The biggest attraction to Envoy (aside from Flow) is the movement in seniority....well because of the flow. I know guys at Endeavor/Republic who've left for other companies because an upgrade is out of sight due to the stagnation there. At Envoy you'll at least be able to upgrade once you hit your 950 hours.
But to answer to the OP
1) Nothing is tough if you study
2) Plan on the 145
3) Pay could be worse