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Old 01-12-2020 | 04:44 PM
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Slow2Final
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Originally Posted by THKooj
They have a terrible reputation with customer service, charge exorbitant fees for everything and are delay and cancel prone. Plus their payrates are bottom of the barrel and I wouldn't touch their contract with a 10 foot pole.
Yet everything I read predicts LCCs to be in a great spot, should a recession hit, since most of their revenue is ancillary sales. Unlike AA/UA/DL, where more of the profit comes from ticket sales. What do you think people flock to when they have less money? There's a reason Spirit has been growing like crazy. People are ok with the things you listed, as long as it's at a good enough price.

And I'm genuinely curious what you mean about the contract. Their pay rates (outside of maybe the first year) are pretty darn good, well above what people would make at any of the wholly owneds, and their 401(K) DC is making it's way up to the same percentage as mainline. That's something you don't see at any regional. Maybe there's something else there I don't know about?

I've got friends there who genuinely like it, and I can't blame them. I know you normally just come in to try and sell Envoy to people who might be reading these forums to get an idea where to apply, but some of the stuff you said is so far off base, I'm kinda scratching my head.
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