Originally Posted by
Guppydriver95
motch,
let’s not get carried away. You are NOT a pariah for saying “fly the contract”. Hell, I wish every pilot had your outlook. Since it’s been your tag line for years, I’m sure once the dust settled it would be fine, but when the folks who have been picking up premium, waiving the contract etc suddenly stop doing it, it’s looked upon as a status quo violation, even if they were just flying the contract. The deck is stacked against labor, sadly. And btw, a guy like you is ALWAYS welcome at happy hour. We only ostracize scabs!
Biers on me! (Before the 12hr to report cut off, of course~ lol)
As far as picking up open time.
Guess I'm one of them!
I drop my line down.. sometimes to 0:00!
Allowed by the contract (Hint.. flying the contract)
I then try to pick up 764 flying that I do not get on my PBS award. This month I got a BCN but my bad.. it's on the 763. I will be trying to drop it later today for 764 and if not, I will have a Real Time Criteria pick up for 764 OR PPU. I live 20 miles from the base!
That being written, I have ALSO turned down vol SRM trips, and don't always pick up flying if I don't like the trip or the time doesn't work for me. I am a lazy pilot some days.. lol
If a reserve FO is given an assignment on a HDO, to me that is a violation of the contract. If he/she accepts that.. that is not flying the contract. If he/she accepts that because they make a deal deal - I call Bull****. THAT is not flying the contract. Wasn't legit 7 years ago... not legit now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqw0Gz9GahM
If pilots understood what the contract meant.. not just the wording inside, but the 'meaning' of a contract, this wouldn't even be a discussion.
Hopefully this gets some of them to think. And in a good way. Don't change anything just understand what your contract language means.
Originally Posted by
JimLaheyTPS
Let’s not get carried away here. Guys are tripping over themselves to pick up some pretty unsavory out of base, straight pay trips right not. Besides an act of god, I’m convinced this pilot group will never stop picking up premium pay trips. Someone has to feed the monkey no matter the consequences.
So we don’t have to worry about that in regards to a status quo change.
See my post above. I can't speak for the other fleets but here in EWR, there are about 5-10 of us in the 756FO BES that try to get better trips on a regular basis. It's part of the 'contract' game and it's allowed and don't expect it to change.
I wouldn't call it 'tripping over themselves'. I call it what it is. Flying the Contract.
What I would call 'tripping over themselves' is if they deadhead in basic economy to get home sooner to pick up another trip. If they extend without add pay only to get home sooner to pick up another trip (while fatigued!)
Waiting over 15mins for a ride to the hotel.. etc.
As NS wrote on the other forum.. just do YOUR job. No one elses.
Our job is to Fly Safe, Fly Professionally, and to Fly The Contract.
Picking up trips in Open Time is flying the Contract. But then sitting in basic eco to your deadhead AND then waiting 30 mins for the ride to the hotel is NOT Flying the Contract.
My opinion
FS, FP and FtC
Motch