Originally Posted by Shenzi105

and at the same time, if a pilot cannot fly the plane with the automation, he/she has no place in the cockpit. We aren't flying Piper Cubs or C172s anymore, we are flying airplanes often designed around the automation and made to fly with the automation. Pilots having trouble with the automation modes and having the plane not doing what they wanted it to do, need more training too. Hand flying cannot always be the solution for a pilot not "confident" with automation. Garbage in, garbage out. It's really a glance of both, fly the plane the way it was designed to be flow and have the hand flying skills when a situation requires it, be it automation system failure, or emergency avoidance of threat.