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Old 01-28-2020 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
We shouldn’t have to negotiate for safety. Think about that concept: negotiate for our own safety?

And you keep ignoring human factors in fatigue. Calling in fatigue is not always as easy as you make it out to be. And it’s insidious, so once you are fatigued your judgement is impaired, and making it more difficult to sense your own fatigue level. The point of 117 is to keep management AND the pilot from making their schedule fatigue prone. And then making it easier for any pilot to call in fatigued if they still have to by empowering them with an actual regulation that states specifically and unequivocally that the pilot decides whether they are fit to be extended beyond 30 minutes.
I don’t think what I can see in 117 necessarily makes us any safer. So, it’s just a change you want to make. A negotiated solution is a surgical correction. 117 is blanket chemo that will probably create other problems we don’t want. The rest you’ve already said too many times to count. I don’t care. I can make a fatigue call. Don’t need to be empowered.
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