Not a lot of detail was given for obvious reasons, but it was nice to see the faces behind the NC.

A few things that I can remember.

-Company's ask even if we get it has nothing but vague details.

-Scope, whatever we gave up .. don't expect to get back. They are trying to lump all our JV's together instead of each one being separate.

-No concessions from DALPA, not one .. everything that has been agreed on so far is a gain.

-Company wants even more flexibility with re-routes , "Endeavor" type of flying. DALPA is trying to get some language in there that re-routes should be used as a last resort (IROPS), company has been using it as a daily tool to avoid even the smallest of delays which have nothing to do with IROPS.

-Ask is big, but nothing like what we heard from the rumor mill. Based off our profits for the past several years, it is right in line.

-Pay rates, all that was said is that with inflation we need a 22% pay raise to get to 04' rates. My understanding is that we are trying to get those.

-We need to make whole our guys that took massive pay cuts in the past, and give the new guys a good future when it comes to retirement and health care.

-First meeting with mediator happened yesterday I believe.


Can't think of anything else ... overall was good.


Wear your laynards, company is noticing.