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Old 02-12-2020 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
This isn't entirely accurate, is it?
There has never been a policy when a block of MA's are considered a single event. Especially when they are just before your scheduled vacation block. And even more so after posting pictures from Disney during those missed days.

And you're also skipping the last part of the story.
yes, it’s accurate.

I have copies of the reports submitted by the CP office (which the company withheld and I got after the arbitration) They referred to the missed assignment, not missed assignments. We expected it to be treated the same as a block of sick days. One event for several days. Same as when you miss on a 4 day trip, recorded as one event of multiple days. When you tell the company put me out sick the next 3 days, it’s one event. When we had snow or WX events they didn’t record MA’s every day, they recorded 1 MA for the block of days. Then later the CP would convert them to commuter policy.
The rule on MA is intended that if you had 4 trips in a month, if you MA’d three consecutive you’d have been out over three weeks. It was never meant for three consecutive days.

The purpose (family reunion) was never in dispute, they were told exactly what the time was for at the same time they were told the block of days I couldn’t be there.

Never tried to hide I was at a family reunion at Disney, told them that at the same time I told them I wouldn’t be there. That was never contested at all.
Read rule #2. It does not say not to be away without permission. It says not to be away without notice; notice had been given. Their words were that’s just a technicality.

like I said, was totally prepared for a step letter, double secret probation, make-up work... some type of punishment. Nobody expected them to record each day individually and attempt to discharge. That was a first as far as ALPA could find.

what was the last part you say I’m skipping? They did a CDD, I signed it. Or that they fired me twice more over the next year and a half in between lots of attempts to make life miserable. Should have fought the CDD. Worst legal advice ever. Picketing them publicly at LGA probably didn’t help, but it what my pilots wanted to do.




In any event it’s water under the bridge and I landed in a much better place. So it actually worked out. Envoy is still a good job, but the flow is losing value daily. They need to fix the work rules and the pay.

Last edited by Cujo665; 02-12-2020 at 06:40 AM.