Originally Posted by
Blackhawk
You’re acting like the transfer of aircraft from an ALPA carrier to a nonALPA carrier is new.
GoJet was founded as a non ALPA/management run union carrier to undercut TSA pilots during contract talks. Both are owned by TSH.
Aircraft were transferred from the old ASA to SkyWest as SkyWest shut down the ALPA side of flying. The AS and EV tail numbers at SkyWest used to be flown by ALPA pilots. Fortunately, the pilots were able to work out a joint contract with XJT and they merged. The only ALPA carrier to throw the ASA pilots a preferred interview was Kalitta Air.
No one cared then and in a year or so no one will care about this round. The non ALPA pilots from SkyWest and GoJet will still have as good if not a better shot at getting hired at UAL than the pilots at ALPA UAX carriers.
Dude (if you are a male.. and if not- oops!)
I was AT Trans States when that went down.
I was a proponent of the NO Vote when we voted to accept GoJet into Trans States. It came with 70 seaters being flown at 50 seat scale. (I was Sec Tres of our LEC.. ). No Way. The Vote did not pass! And I'm happy with that.
I had a long one on one conversation with Duane Woerth about this issue. It went back to Freedom Airlines and USAirways. I also had a long conversation with individuals with TSA Management.
It is what it was..
Once the 70 seaters got their noses under the tent flap, the battle started going south.
Problem is.. ALPA National didn't want to fight that battle then. It also seems that it doesn't want to fight that battle now?!
So now I wonder-
Will ALPA National be happy that they are losing those union dues?
or will they be ok with it as the Trans States Pilot group might not have brought in the same amount they took out?
With regards to 76 seat aircraft
Kinda simple-
We Buy them, We Fly them.
Been in this game a short 20 years. But in that time, I keep hearing the same thing-
We Will Get Them NEXT Time.
I also keep seeing the that same thing-
A union carrier goes under and a non union carrier grows.
Enough already.
Always
Motch
FS, FP & FtC