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Old 03-09-2020 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
This is also part of the issue I take with some of the typical responses. I waled into ENJJPT thinking there is no way I wasn't going to make it. In fact, that is exactly the attitude I was told to have by my IPs at Sheppard. Why would you go into something like that thinking otherwise? Does one have to caveat every single post they make with "IF" they make it through? Personally, I'll take he guy that doesn't have doubt and won't let anything stand between him and reaching his goal. It just makes me laugh when people bring that up...and it happens every time. In my class 21 started and 20 finished. Every one of us that went fighters made it.
You completely missed it. I'm not telling the guy to think that way. I'm just saying expect to work hard. Maybe they needed pilots more when you went through. My class went from 30 to 20 and it wasn't unheard of for a class to lose 50%. I wouldn't be surprised if UPT is kinder and gentler now and a higher percentage will graduate considering the pilot shortage. But, even so, in my opinion going in thinking prior time is going to make any difference is usually a mistake. If it does, great. But I don't know this guy. No clue what he's heard. I think it's worthwhile to let a new guy looking at UPT know what to expect. That's all. I'm sorry if you find that tiring. You want to help him line up his civilian job after he's finished UPT, IFF, FTU, MQT and hopefully years of full time fighter flying. I'm just offering some additional advice on the tasks that he's going to encounter a bit sooner than that.
As far as getting an ATP and a pre-UPT civilian job landed that he can take mil leave from... I'll be very impressed if he can make that happen with the time available. I hope it works out for him. Maybe he'll let us know.

Originally Posted by crewdawg
Between the two sets of orders and using up all their AFTPs/UTAs per FY, it's not hard to have them full time for 2-2.5 years, how are they not 4-FLUG'd by then?
I would hope they are a 4-FL. That's still just a single AD tour and what I would consider the bare minimum for a guy to go part time.
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