Originally Posted by
Excargodog
You can cherry-pick individual statements out of a long discussion to give almost any appearance but unfortunately for you the conversation is still on the server and anyone who wants to can look back and see the reality.
My assertion was simply that it would be better for pilot unity if first year pay was high enough that those coming in from the regionals weren’t having to take a pay cut to do so, and anyone who bothers to look back will see that’s precisely what I was saying. I wasn’t picking on NK in particular, F9 doesn’t do much better by their newbies and UPS actually does worse. In fact there are quite a few REGIONALS that pay their newbie FOs (counting signing bonuses) considerably more their first year than do NK, F9, or UPS. THAT isn’t even my opinion, simply a matter of fact. Nor was I even asserting that NK pay ought to be brought up to legacy or even SWA FO first year pay, simply that I didn’t think it ought to be a reduction from what most people were getting in the regionals. I conceded that in the long run people were certainly better off moving to any of those three majors - I CAN do the math - but simply opined that it would be better for pilot unity if some attention were given to eliminating the huge gap between second and first year pay in ensuing contracts. Now that may be naive, but until someone explains why I shouldn’t think that I’m afraid I’m sticking to it.
Now why that put a burr under the saddle of you and several other people on here I’m not really sure. But I flatter myself that I’m a reasonably open minded individual so I am certainly willing to listen to your argument.
So can you succinctly explain to me why you believe that new NK FOs should receive less pay their first year than new FOs at Republic, Air Whiskey, QX, and several other regionals receive AT A REGIONAL?
For added credit, could you explain why you and a few others appear to believe I’m an SOB for even asking the question?
I await your response with bated breath so please don’t take too long - I might pass out.
I’ll make this very simple. The issue is not someone saying “our new hire should get paid more.” The issue is that someone such as yourself, coming on here to brag about how you are making more than our new hire. It’s not a question when you make a statement such as the one i quoted, and that you seem happy about it. If you think it’s so bad, why would you even consider applying here?