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Old 03-11-2020 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by onedolla
Well, at least it sounds like the next round will be an easy win for the company. Give something, take something, and this place is always going to be better than a regional, and as long as there's that "line out the door" argument, they can keep dropping to ATP mins like last time, and the line just keeps getting longer. Who wouldn't pick Spirit over Mesa if the requirements are the same and they just need a body in the right seat?



You listed some nice things we may want next round and I've heard some common others on the line, so here's an example of what we want:

Cal Day Rigs, Redeye Override, better international pay, stronger scope, better LTD, 16% DC, higher hourly rates, better per diem, better reserve flexibility, higher instructor override, 8 hours for ground school, etc.



Do we have a list of things equally long to give them back for your "quid pro quo"? Our strongest argument seems to be people won't come here or apply next round if things aren't "good enough" here, but at this point, it is significantly than a regional, and if the company is willing to (like last round) drop the mins to the same as the regionals, and hire almost everyone on the spot, what do we do? What is there to give up if something must always be traded? No one has been able to answer that.
Maybe speak to your reps? Negotiations are a few years away still though, and besides, management is probably busy watching future bookings right now.

Hey, does anybody have the link to Airline Management Central? The site where upper management from each airline posts online discussing their strategy for handling contract negotiations? It's so frustrating that when investors ask them this stuff on earnings calls, they usually say they won't comment on it. If only I could find that website where they talk strategy on an open web forum, where anyone without even a login can see it.

[emoji19][emoji849] Well we still can dazzle them with the 50 picketers I guess. Never mind that we love playing poker with our cards turned face up.
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