Originally Posted by FXLAX

So just because I support 117 you personally attack me as someone who simply “spouts off their talking points.” As if I don’t have an independent way of coming to my opinions? Can you just please stick to arguing against my opinions and not attacking the sincerity of them?

This isn’t just about you or about just me. The fact is that fatigue is insidious, it can impair judgement, and calling in fatigue has human factors issues attached to it. I’m glad you are immune to all of that all of the time. 117 is designed specifically so you won’t find yourself in a situation to have to call in fatigued. That’s not an issue about having the FAA do everything for you. It’s simple an extra layer of safety that we don’t have.

I can from one of the good regionals as well, and although it’s obviously not the same type of operation, fatigue calls went down. For many, it was a good thing. There is nothing wrong with signing up to work here for the current pay rates. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t make them better in the future.