Originally Posted by
Andy
What is your source for this information? I have been monitoring multiple sources and have not seen anything of the sort (United looking for paycuts) as of now.
I'm hoping you tell us that your source is one of idiots who post on APC or perhaps the JBLU FA who started the 'United is buying JBLU' rumor a couple of years ago that didn't really die until coronavirus.
I have, to date, seen zero from either UALALPA or UAL management hinting at paycuts. Not much overall news, except that we can expect to be offered more leaves of absence (0 hrs pay) and surplus reduction lines (50 hrs pay). If one views those as paycuts, OK - but not a pay
rate cut.
It's safe to say that there are some pretty intense discussions going on right now at all airlines and I'm sure there's a whole gamut of options on the table at every airline. All we can do is prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
We're all in the airline business so we're all screwed. Take care of each other and watch out for fellow workers who get deeply depressed - there have already been a couple of suicides out there. .
In closing, this calls for a little bit of Ozzy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9yYJ6ZAYns
All the best to everyone.
I posted this the night of that Oscar sent the email to employees. A family member forwarded it to me. He spoke of executives taking paycuts and needing to control payroll costs. When a CEO and other executives take a paycut it’s to set an example. The money is inconsequential to the health of a company to burns billions but it’s hard to ask for one without taking one yourself. So to me that says appears to be “looking” for paycuts. That was also before APA released their voluntary leave packages. It looks like and are are two different things.
I’m Not close to retirement but I’ve been at this long enough to know that airline managements will absolutely use a major short term crisis to lock in long term concessions. Even if they have snap back provisions, they will be violated and the pay never returns. I’m also aware of the major cascading training costs involved at carriers with multiple types when it comes to furloughs. Management always tries what’s easy. This is not new.
again they haven’t asked so far but United management was the first to release the “we need to control payroll” message and I’ve seen this movie before.
I think Alpa national knows this is huge but also short term and hopefully are working with each airline’s MECs to work on big solutions but that have us all that want to be back working as quickly as possible and at full pay.