yeah that is what a new hire here at pinnacle makes with our 8 year old contract.... of course 2nd year pay is beyond a joke, so i cant say much there.

and tony no offense man but you are just one of the pawns of sapa.. the core of sapa is a bunch of guys that have been there FOREVER... they let a few new guys in because they feel like they can control them easier, hence your yes vote to send this to the pilots. if you would have voted no they still would have done it without you... like someons saying on here goes.. power isn't being able to choose, its giving the options.