It might behoove all those(few actually) touting ALV reductions to look at it from another perspective. Everybody(pilots,mgt,union) recognizes the damage to “good will” done by furloughs. Those pilots that get furloughed have a life long “foul taste” in their mouth(some not all).....their ire is directed against the company. The company understands this, but they are going to do what they think they have to do.

Now, on the forum, we get some that are virtue signaling, “I’m willing to give an ALV reduction to prevent furloughs even up to 50]. There are only 2 ways they can happen. First an MEC cramdown, with no vote by the constituents allowed. That’s not likely since it would “materially” affect the pilot group. The other way would be a vote by the constituents. Herein lies the downside. If the ALV reduction were to be voted on, those at the bottom of the list would glom onto that like a drowning man a life preserver. If the reduction was voted down(I feel pretty confident it would be) now, who are the furloughed upset with. I’m thinking, the union, and the greedy pilots.

So my PSA is, let’s be careful tossing out ideas that, IMO, offer false hope to those at the bottom. Quit negotiating in public, if you have and idea....write your rep. If they craft something, we will get to vote on it and they (hopefully) will have done their due diligence taking into consideration a myriad of things that aren’t put up on these forums.

Additionally, we have a contract that addresses furlough protection. It was written and modified over many years and many MEC’s, some hard line and some pro-active engagement. They have had ample time to address ALV reduction to preclude/mitigate furloughs. Something may be proffered by the union, but at this point in time, it will be picking winners and losers.......which will irk at least one group of pilots.

IOW,...... ALV reductions sound very magnanimous, prolly will not happen, and raise false, unrealistic hope for those that are already going through a stressful time

JMHO.......I know, I’m just a greedy Boomer, but this is exactly what I conveyed to my pilot progeny who are in the furlough window.