Originally Posted by
FXLAX
I’m not sure how many other ways there are to explain the mechanism of ALPA and the negotiations of mainline and regional pilot groups.
As simple as can be stated: the fact is that NOTHING any regional pilot group negotiates with their management affects ANYTHING to do with scope of what’s already been negotiated by mainline pilots.
That is an indisputable statement simply because it’s fact based. It doesn’t matter if Jim Johnson, the President of the USA, or the Pope say otherwise. It doesn’t make facts untrue.
I guess we could find a support group for you...
"As simple as can be stated: the fact is that NOTHING any regional pilot group negotiates with their management affects ANYTHING to do with scope of what’s already been negotiated by mainline pilots."
We see some routes flown by both main line and regional carriers. IAH to MSY? So that's debunked for sure. I've got a an entire list of routes that have both RJ's and mainline jets on them. Just ask those dudes who have spent 30 years at Express how they are liking it? I just disputed your so-called indisputable statement. I just love absolutes.... let's write a resolution shall we? where to, how for, how to, there fore, there fore be it resolved. Therefore be it further resolved. Reminds me of that movie with Tom Cruise and that lil hottie Demi Moore....i object.....No, I strenuously object. Maybe, if you strenuously object and say That's the Fact Jack. ..That'l probably have the desired effect.....
If a mainline pilot says "we're taking it back, or we're un-scoping what was scoped out, or we're taking our flying back, or any set of words that mean the same thing that will indeed have an effect on not only what a regional MEC can negotiate, but in practice limits the size and the depth of the sand-box they are allowed to play in.
When a mainline pilot says "we need to take back what was taken from us under the threat of bankruptcy or liquidity shortfall they are referring to money, retirement, and earning potential. Intrinsically interwoven in this discussion is route and route authority.
if there is only 100 percent of anything to be divided and subdivided, it doesn't take a math savant to discover taking back 50% of an industry that was strong-arm scoped away by your own pilot union is going to be anything short of a fight. Both internally within your union there are going to be disagreements, and externally with both mainline and regional management's there will be disagreement.
The smart regional pilot will ask himself one question: is it better for me to make 250 dollars an hour at mainline, or make 60 dollars an hour at regional x?
Just poll the mainline pilots............Like JG Wentworth says............"It's your money!"