Originally Posted by rickair7777

OO doesn't like less than 15 years if they provide the plane, even that still leaves them with some "tail risk" on the back end, maybe 5 years with a 20-year mortgage/lease. They've done a few short contracts with the planes owned by the major.

That's what they bring to table, they can show up with dozens of brand-new $30M jets. The price for that is long-term contracts.