Originally Posted by
Herkflyr
Good point. I think we all, pilots, noncons and mgmt can work together to get through this, but we need to. That means we avoid both extremes. We don't just hand mgmt a signed, blank check and say "fill in the amount." But I don't think "full pay till the last day!" accomplishes a whole lot either.
I couldn't agree more. They just seem to be single target track on the ALV cut, with not much interest in anything else. Meanwhile AAL has over 4000 pilots on various forms of leaves.
Originally Posted by
Herkflyr
Clever solutions that give the pilot group real permanent value...kind of like LOA 20-01...is what we need to emphasize.
Management shot themselves in the foot by not at least sticking with the SIL, if not just for May. They killed A LOT of trust and good will with just that one move. Sure the agreement just said they COULD offer them, but I think we can all agree that there was a level of expectation. They moved a lot of the "moderate" folks to the extreme column with just that one move.
Originally Posted by
Buck Rogers
But their counter point(as it was 18 years ago) will be, “let’s not try to fly a square corner. Give a little now so you don’t have to give a lot later”. They will then bring up the real life example of, “when did you start saving for your kids college? Did you save $200 month for 18 years or wait until they were driving off to their dream college before asking yourself, “how much do I have to save per month now?”
My response: I'll tell the kids to do what I did and join the Air National Guard to pay for college.
