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Old 04-27-2020 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Yes, the documents are online, but yes, it is a PITA since they insist on people still doing recurrent.

No real reason to hassle with taking them back.

And why should you lose JS and KCM? No reason. Someone said it wasn’t the company that pushed that part. With current loads, JS isn’t really an issue, but KCM is still nice.
No one seems concerned about the CASS, KCM, and badges. Seems the company gives an answer/excuse for why not possible and the union is glad to not push back and accepts policy as an answer. Not enough folks are aware that AA guys who took the 50 hours for perm leave till 65 have full cockpit Jumpseat rights, CASS, and KCM... until they retire, yet will never fly again. Let that sink in...

We, on the other hand, are supposed to remain proficient for 19 hours a month yet are not to be trusted to sit up front on a plane, or even keep an iPad to read a company manual during our pathetic paid LOA.

Another point of concern. Warm up sims upon return to remain proficient. Nothing promises these. On the last call the tone was that it would not be unreasonable to ask company for warm up sims to help individuals who took LOAs. Keeping JS and iPads costs nothing, and it's not happening. Does not build confidence on the sim issue as sims cost significant money. Just take people offline who cannot pass a recurrent cold turkey and save 19 hours of pay a month on that person. Genius! Fire the person for not maintaining proficiency is full blown Stephen Hawkins genius when fat on pilots.

Anything can be negotiated, policy can be changed, and I get a feeling we are not getting the whole story from one side at least, maybe both. These LOAs do cost and should have had a lot more details ironed out before being signed. Maybe another chance this next round.
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