Originally Posted by
Cujo665
Don't be moronic; of course they do. They are working for AA like any contractor works for AA. The passengers on the planes are AA passengers, not PSA, PDT or ENY passengers. They are not currently employed by AA would be an accurate statement.
Wrong again. They've already been told they're hired; they just have to complete the time at the regional level first. Essentially and apprenticeship. Their AA start date is deferred, that's all.
They are not employed yet by American; they are most definitely working for American, and have been hired at American; with a start date deferred and dependent upon their seniority list position at their regional. A subtle but significant difference.
The fact remains. AAG is in the colleges and universities telling pipeline candidates that this is their one and only interview for their entire career. They'll complete training in college, teach at the College as an Envoy employee, then transfer from pipeline instructor to Envoy Pilot, can bid the equipment and base they want based upon their seniority, and when their seniority holds it, can bid to go train on the Boeing or Airbus at AA under the APA contract instead of the ALPA contract.
It will be very hard to say that is not a single carrier. They themselves are the ones advertising a single cradle to grave interview.
If you want to say they are not an American Airlines pilot currently, I would 100% agree. The only person saying that to anybody is that company stooge who changes his screen name every few weeks to some different variation of mine. He's got Cujo envy.
they don’t work for American. Period. Contractors are by definition not employees. That’s why they are called contractors.
the recruiters are lying to people to get them to voluntarily work for below standard wages and work rules because they are already “hired” at American. Without an APA number and a single contract it will never be any different.