Originally Posted by TRZ06

Just the numbers for those outside the arena looking in. AA manpower planning numbers are for 12,086 positions for Sept 2020. November 2020 shows 10,060 positions, 2,452 of those being international wide body (777/787). July 2021 10,997 positions. As for the actual headcount as of august 2020 we have 12,674 pilots. 1,150 of those are on removed fleets (190,767, 330). Permanent leave and retirements to this date have been removed from this figure and I believe Temporary leaves have not. Also, from today until the end of the year there are 323 retirements. 2021 shows 542 total, 2022 is 624 and 2023 is 828. I separated the wide body flying out for the Nov 2020 figure and its stays fairly constant for the forecast periods that followed. Seems optimistic to me but I'll let others decide that. Hope the numbers shed a little light on what may or may not happen.