Originally Posted by
njd1
There's nothing unscientific about pointing out the obvious -- only people with compromised immune systems are vulnerable to the virus since by definition a healthy immune response is clearly responsible for the recovery of the vast majority of people who have contracted the virus. Put simply, if you are healthy, you recover. If not, you succumb and die. I don't see anything unscientific or unsubstantiated with that statement, as it is a statement of reality and fact.
This is simply not true. While individuals who are healthy die at a far lower rate, there are still perfectly healthy people who die. No medical conditions. No obesity. Healthy diet. No asthma. No history or indication of poor health. People like this have died. Saying otherwise is a lie. But in any case, that's not what you said. This is what you said:
Originally Posted by
njd1
If you get covid and die, you would have died from the flu or countless other maladies because your immune system is compromised.
This is a ridiculous claim that suggests all the covid deaths would have happened anyway because they would have died of the flu if they hadn't gotten the coronavirus. That is an unprovable statement, and it ignores the fact that this years overall death rate is higher than last years. If these people would've died from the flu or other normal causes anyway, shouldn't this years average death rate for april match last years? Nationwide, nearly 64,000 more people have died than usual between March 15 and April 25. If it's "just the flu," why have so many more people died this year compared to last year?
Originally Posted by
njd1
Furthermore, just because someone is not visibly sick, obese or old-aged at the time they contract this virus does not make them "healthy", though our sick-care system would obviously label them as such. The vast majority of people in this country have no idea how to take care of themselves and are not healthy. They live a sedentary lifestyle (i.e. don't exercise in any meaningful way), eat garbage (fast food, processed food, sugar drinks), and smoke or drink alcohol, all of which dramatically reduces immune system effectiveness and makes them vulnerable to the virus.
I agree, but you have to recognize that people with active lifestyles, healthy diets, who don't smoke or drink, have died. A very small number, to be sure, but healthy people have died, and pretending otherwise is an act of fantasy