Originally Posted by copy

We didn’t have a 5 hour give per seat. Lineholder guarantee stayed the same at 70. ALV dropped from 74 to 70 or below. So you can make an argument that there was a 4 hour give, but the problem with that argument is 1) ALV isn’t a guarantee, and 2) our furlough mitigation language allows ALV to be dropped and doesn’t require member ratification (unlike guarantee).

Line holders will likely be getting 40-60 hour lines, so working 10-12 days, and can pick up as much open time as they want, all over their 70 hour guarantee. So depending on how much open time there is and what the actual ALVs end up being, line holders will be able to credit more and work even less than before. The difference between guarantee and their line value is free money/credit.

So in short, you need to use maybe 20-30% max of the pilots taking a 5 hour pay cut (reserve). Also, we aren’t anywhere near maxed on our pay scales. 1000 FOs have been hired in the last 4.5 years. I’d guess you’d be more accurate if you used year 6 pay rates for the avg FO. You can maybe max the CAs out for your calcs, but we have a quite a few 4-11 year CAs as well.