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Old 07-19-2020 | 03:31 PM
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horrido27
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Guys and Gals... maybe someone can point me to what I'm missing with regards to this EO.
It only targets 1100ish pilots.
Of those, roughly 711ish are 63 and over.
Of which it excluded anyone out on LTD... so what are the target numbers now?

It was my understanding that PC or BQ mentioned (somewhere) that retirements for the next year were already factored into the Furlough numbers.
So, even if half those directly eligible (350ish) take it and another 50% of the 62 crowd take it (200ish), I don't believe it will save even one furlough?!
What am I missing?

Some believe 1000+ will take the EO and that will save 1000 furloughees... but I just don't see it?

Why would anyone who has 7 weeks vacation a year AND even if their sick back is Zero, they would still earn 60 hrs in that year which is like another 2.5 weeks.. why would they accept the offer as is UNLESS they had a side gig and/or military retirement? If they have a couple of hundred hours of sick leave.. even less of a chance they would take it.

In my honest opinion, this is a fail not because of what was agreed upon, it's a fail because our union should have been vocal (In Public) against management early on for NOT wanting to negotiate an early out. How is it that our Fellow ALPA Brothers & Sisters at Delta got a deal that has a larger pool of eligibility and (seems) to be aimed at reducing furloughs and ours is aimed at "many older pilots place a high value on free time and are ready to step back from flying". That being less than 10% of our pilot group?

A true EO that is aimed at reducing Furloughs would have mirrored Delta's target audience. -
Age 50 + 10 years of Service, or
25 years of Service

Hell, even if they had allowed 60 and above to apply, it might have helped.

At the end of the day, I expect that less than 400 will actually take it. Will also be great to know the difference between the Legacy Groups..
It is what it is.. but still can't figure out why people are typing it's a great deal or that it will save jobs.

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