Originally Posted by
skylike
I was considering Apejackson's eight years enlisted. I should have been more general for others on the forum and included this caveat.
If you have already RETIRED from active duty, you start federal civilian service for leave purposes as someone with no prior time would. You are already being compensated for your military time.
If you are retired, you may still buy back your military time but I cannot fathom any scenario that would make it financially feasible. You give up your current military pension for future civil credit.
I was speaking for anyone who has regular active duty military (or Coast Guard) time and DID NOT retire. If you were enlisted four four years and left or an officer passed over for O5 and canned at 14 years, you may buy back that time and it counts for additional percentage of pay at retirement.
For leave accumulation, all regular active duty time counts (unless you retired). I am not speaking of National Guard time or reserves taking active orders, just regular ol' I joined the military and left under honorable conditions after x number of years. In times of drawdown or for veteran's preference points,one can have active military service but not be considered a veteran, but I don't think that has occured in the last 30 years.
These are the rules under FERS for law enforcement officers. I thought the FERS rules were the same for military service LEO or not, but cannot speak to that. There may be some on this forum still on the CSRS retirement system, but they won't be around, or alive, much longer. Anyone interested in a CBP job or any other agency will be under FERS, LEO or not.
USMCFLYR - are you still FAA flight check?
Yep - still looking after the NAS :-)!
Agreed......if you served your initial obligation, no reason not to buy back your time. We have one guy who retired but was able to buy back his 4 years at the USAFA.
I did not know about the leave accrual being straight military time if you did not retire.
everyone I know had to fill out the forms and send them in then was told how much credit time they got towards leave.
I did 20 years, multiple overseas tours that were credited to include combat tours and a got 6 months credit. I would find it hard to believe some who spent 4 years in the stateside military without any deployments woul garner 4 years of leave credit if that person joined govt service, but OPM has some strange rules for sure.
i know that govt LEO service has some different rules, but I’m certainly not up to speed on them all.
I’m sure your recruiting is probably seeing an uptick of recent. We just had 4 retired USAF pilots come on board.
2 were coming on board in any case and two I’m sure we’re heavily influenced by current factors. We probably haven’t had a newly retired USAF guy come on from the USAF Flight Check DET 1 in probably 6-7 years.