I've maybe had a van driver actually be a manager of the hotel maybe 5% of the time, and it was either very late or very early and they had to leave the front desk unattended to do so. I find it hilarious a poster here actually uses that as an excuse not to tip anybody. "well actually the van driver could be the manager and is making more than my FO, dar dar dar. I mean, do you tip your dentist dar dar dar dar darrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"