And why didn't C5 get both? Because C5 can't grow fast enough. UAL has been trying to grow C5 for how long... a few years now? C5 has grown slowly, but there's only so quickly that an airline run on a whiteboard can grow. That's Champlain's fault, not the pilots' fault.

This is why EV is probably going to win this one if UAL is serious about chopping an airline.