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Old 08-04-2020 | 05:45 PM
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EagleVol
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Originally Posted by Dobbs18
so let's say 2,000 of the most jr pilots take the zero lines in lieu of being furloughed, and the next 500 don't and just instead check the box "I will take the zero line only if it's my only option instead of being furloughed."(or all 2,500 check this box same results) Now the company says hot damn we got 2,500 guys now not getting paid when we were only going to furlough 1,300-1,500. And those 500 people who otherwise would have been fine are now sitting at home getting little to no pay. It basically gives the company an easy out to put all 2500 WARN notice pilots on a semi-state furlough status and get to chalk it up as "voluntary". I mean you need to look at this agreement and think worse case scenario not best case....why not make an agreement that has the zero line options but if and when they don't get enough they furlough from the bottom? What is the number of furloughs the company is thinking of furloughing? 1,000...1,500...2,500??? What's to keep them from saying "well all 2,500 were going to be furloughed(wink wink) so we accepted all their zero line in lieu of furlough bids". Or they get all 2,500 checking the box and they still say welp sorry guys and gals still need to furlough the next 500 senior pilots. So now we have 2,500 jr pilots not furloughed not getting paid and 500 more senior pilots furloughed not getting paid....I mean were do the numbers stop? How is someone suppose to prepare for this? They are basically forcing the bottom 2,500 into zero lines. Some please explain if I am totally wrong.

I do think the company should put out actual furlough numbers beforehand because as of now you are correct, if you’re in the bottom 2500 you have to assume you will be furloughed and if you’d rather have a ZTL than a full furlough you need to check the box indicating so. These are questions for APA.
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