Originally Posted by Dobbs18

I agree that the original furlough line was said to be 1200-1600, however things have taken a bad turn for the worse since those July 2021 numbers were posted along with the Sept Vacancy. If we don't see any Cares 2.0 money I have a bad feeling that 2500 is going to be just the start. As far as mitigating furloughs, they company was not going to agree to anything that cost them more money. That being said these ZTLs are actually a huge savings to the company over the traditional furlough process....Great for them, TBD for us. The onus is on us (next generation) to break the cycle of 'sacrificing our young' just because it is part of some twisted sadistic right of passage in the airline industry. I am not advocating some socialistic pilot union where seniority doesn't matter, but rather an idea or thought that maybe we start negotiating from the middle of the list instead of from the top down....what I mean is, only about 16% or less of our seniority list is GP IV captains, and usually for only a short time, yet most of efforts at times seems geared towards the idea of everyone being a GP IV captain....