Originally Posted by Noworkallplay

Well, the current A plan that you so much love was negotiated by the organization that would negotiate the new one also correct? So if you have no confidence in them negotiating pensions then why are you so certain about our current one?

As Kronan pointed out I think most of the language and funding levels are regulated like our current plan.

I dont care what direction we go but your arguments talk circles around themselves.

Whats Pancakes? We are earning pancakes in the current plan also arent we?

As for focused I agree. Hey at least we see eye to eye on that. It seems you have tunnel vision on this issue. Im willing to look at numerous ideas. Heck I would be interested in a Flat dollar formula (like UPS) if it was a big enough increase. So is the UPS pension “pancakes”? Is it not a pension? I know it a different calculation and formula so is it junk in your mind?