Originally Posted by Drum

I don't follow your logic here. How is it DALPAs issue the airline is furloughing? DALPA has offered, from I have read, very amenable terms and options with flexibility to forestall some furloughs. Kompany told them to pound sand. Give us ALV concessions or nothing.

Well say hypothetically we give them ALV relief; 1)what's stopping the kompany from furloughing anyway? and 2)how long would it take to remove that provision if accepted (which I don't think it would ever pass a vote). We've seen the numbers, we know the $$$ savings given the multiple voluntary options proffered by the MEC. I can see them, if given ALV relief, using it as a rolling tool to overwork certain categories while idling others, a feast or famine type scenario where they can pull the strings at will (optimizer 4.0). We've seen their act. Dishonesty is in their playbook.

No, I don't think we need to go crazy Ivan on giving up anything to them. I was prepared as UNA to be furloughed. I got saved by VEOP, but I'm still not all that far from the bottom of the list. Kompany is out to make an example of union shop, they are covering that under the guise of $$ savings. It's all a massive pile of BS.