Originally Posted by
Seneca Pilot
Nice editing there. I never typed that.
Call them anything you want. Hell call them athiest values. They are the basic respects that we have to pay each other in order for society to stay together. If no one is taught that it isn't ok to kill someone else for no reason, or that it is ok to steal from your neighbor then the whole thing falls apart.
You said the values of Christianity are universal. I say they are not. Even going with "thou shall not kill", you will find people that have all sorts of different takes on this. Some people are "never", as in not in war, not in self defense, not to end suffering, not in retaliation, not for any purpose. Some people justify it. All of them are Christians. They usually have reasons to justify their belief that are no better or worse than any others. The "value" is not standard.